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Embracing Your Unique Love Story

Embracing Your Unique Love Story

Rhonda Stoppe is challenging you to remember the spouse you dreamed of being on your wedding day, to literally write down your love story, and lean on Jesus as your ultimate unfailing love so you can fully embrace the unique love story God has written in your life.
Original Air Date: July 3, 2019

Woman #1: I fell in love with my husband because he was unlike any other guy I had met.

Man #1: So I fell in love with my wife when I was three hours late for my first date with her, and she still went out on a date with me.

Woman #2: We both have the exact same sense of humor.

Man #2: I met her. We had a few-minute conversation, and I was like, “Wow. I could totally marry that girl.”

Woman #3: I thought, that’s the kind of guy that I want to marry. And it didn’t hurt that he was really good looking, too.

Jim Daly: (laughing) That’s a good part.

John Fuller: Well, do you remember what it felt like when you fell in love? Uh, maybe your heart started fluttering and your hands got k- kinda cold and clammy, and just the thought of that person, uh, being around, just made you smile. Well, as time goes on and life happens, sometimes those feelings kinda fade. And today on Focus on the Family, we’re gonna be sharing some love stories to help you remember why you fell in love and embrace the unique love story God is writing in your life. He’s still doing it. I’m John Fuller and your host is Focus on the Family President, Jim Daly.

Jim: Uh John, I’ll never forget that moment I met Jean. I was at a friend’s wedding. I was best man at the wedding. The couple getting married, they were really excited to introduce us, but she’d come with another guy, and so she was quite reserved, and I was able to dance one dance with her. And then I walked back to the table and another friend that was there, I- I looked at him and I said, “I think that’s the woman I’m gonna marry.”

John: Wow.

Jim: It took 13 months, but (laughing). I had to convince her.

John: Yes.

Jim: But, uh, but that really was the moment. I mean, I just knew that she was the one. It was amazing. Then we went on our first, not real date, it wasn’t official, ’cause Jean was not dating anybody-

John: Got it.

Jim: … so this was just a bunch of people getting together, four of us.

John: Safe.

Jim: The married couple and then the two of us (laughs).

John: That’s a safe situation.

Jim: And, uh, from that night… uh, we went to an Amy Grant concert, actually… and from that night forward, even though we didn’t talk about it, she said that night, “I knew.” So, it was pretty quick for both of us-

John: Wow.

Jim: … and so much fun. How about you and Dena?

John: Well, we had a great time meeting on a single’s campout. And it took me a few months to convince her that, uh, we really should go out on a date. We… I asked her and she said, “No.”

John: (laughing) And so, I persisted. We were prayer partners for a while. That worked pretty well. And then, uh, she did finally agree to start going out, and, um, it’s been 35 years now, almost.

Jim: Okay. I’m thinking of the prayer partner thing. Were you praying, “Dear Lord, bring a woman into my life,” and she’s your prayer partner (laughs)?

John: Well, it- it does bring us together when we pray, Right?

Jim: You might of had a little motivation going there.

John: Might of, and I think God’s okay with that.

Jim: Well, and that’s so great. Uh, our guest today is going to illustrate that kind of romance and talk about how we can keep that flame going, even in the different paces of our lives.

John: And our guest is Rhonda Stoppe. She is a pastor’s wife, an author, a speaker and has 30 years of experience as a marriage mentor. And, uh, her husband is Steve. They have four grown children and 10 grandchildren. And, uh, Rhonda has a great book called, Real-Life Romance: Inspiring Stories to Help You Believe in True Love. That’s going to be the basis of our conversation today.

Jim: Uh, Rhonda, welcome back to Focus on the Family.

Rhonda Stoppe: Thanks. I’m so excited to be back with you guys.

Jim: You’ve been sitting there quietly listening to our little giggles and our description. Uh, anything catch your attention.

Rhonda: And tearing up.

Jim: (laughs).

Rhonda: Even the intro, that little teaser, this, “Oh.”

Jim: Oh, yeah.

Rhonda: And then, hearing you guys’ and that’s what this Real-Life Romance book is, is in 30 years of being in youth ministry with my husband, uh, he’s been a pastor. We’re in California. We’ve been, uh, at the same church for the last 20 years.

Jim: Oh, man.

Rhonda: So you watch kids grow up and fall in love.

Jim: Mm-hmm.

Rhonda: I’ve seen my own kids grow up and fall in love.

Jim: You marry ’em.

Rhonda: You marry them. We do premarital counseling with them. So, you get to see over and over again the sweet love stories of people who really pursue Christ first, and then he writes their love stories.

Jim: You know what’s fun to think about? When you’re… I mean, I hadn’t thought about this, but to do premarital counseling, to be the couple doing it, that is so good for your own marriage.

Rhonda: So good.

Jim: Now you had in the early stages of your courtship, I mean, it was kind of a little different. You were young. You were 14. I think Steve was older. I’ll let you describe that story. But how did you meet Steve? Let’s start there.

Rhonda: Well (laughs), it’s a long story. And (laughs), I was going to a Christian school in the San Francisco Bay area. He was away at college in Denver. He came home and his parents had moved to the town where this school was.

Jim: (laughs)

Rhonda: So he just kind of was the new guy at church, and if you’ve been in a singles group, you know when a new guy walks in there-

John: Everybody knows.

Rhonda: … it’s fresh meat (laughs)-

Jim: Oh, yeah, right. Okay, yeah.

Rhonda: … and there’s usually way more women than men.

Jim: A fresh challenge.

Rhonda: Okay.

Rhonda: (laughing)

Jim: Okay, whatever. You get the idea.

Rhonda: But, you know, here comes this Steve Stoppe, hottie with a body, and these girls are like, “Ah.” And so, he just thinks it’s a very friendly church.

Rhonda: (laughing) And it was.

Jim: Oh my goodness (laughs).

Rhonda: And- and he starts taking these girls out, and I’m watching from afar. And honestly, uh, the first time I ever met him, the first time I ever talked to him, he was working on the buses in the back of the church.

Jim: Mm.

Rhonda: So I walked in the back of where the school was, looking for my sister, and he was working on the bus. And so, I said, “Have you seen my sister?” And he says, “Your sister, who?” And she happened to be dating his brother at the time. I’m like, “She’s dating your brother.” “My brother, who?” And he was just bantering. He was giving me a hard time. My mom was waiting in the car. My mom was irritated. I’m like, “I gotta go.” And as I walked away, I had a fleeting thought, “I’m gonna marry him.” And I was like, I was embarrassed. I was like just shy of 15 years old. I didn’t think that about any guy on the street.

Jim: Right.

Rhonda: And I was like, “What? That’s embarrassing.” And then, but I had the hugest crush on him from then on. So I’m watching him, you know, dating these women, and I’m this teenage girl. Uh, my sister wasn’t allowed to go out with his brother unless there was a chaperone, so I had always gone with them as like a threesome, so he started going with us, the four of us. Eventually, my sister and, uh, his brother broke up, so I hadn’t seen him in a while. He had a 1969 Mach 1-

Jim: Oh, yeah. That makes your heart just go pitter-patter.

Rhonda: … which he sold when we got married.

John: Oh.

Rhonda: I know. In fact, there’s a video on my website of us telling our love story. He talks more about his 1969 Mach 1 than he does about me.

Rhonda: (laughing) But it’s okay (laughs). I learned to drive in that car (laughs).

Jim: You haven’t taken that personally?

Rhonda: No, ’cause I loved it as much.

Jim: What a woman, incredible. Steve, you’re so blessed.

John: (laughing)

Jim: He’s out there watching this, but yeah. So anyway.

Rhonda: So I was a cheerleader for this Christian school, hadn’t seen Steve in a while. And I… We pulled up to a game that we were gonna play, a basketball game. It was in Fremont.

Jim: And he was on the basketball team?

Rhonda: Well, he was, uh, alumni.

Jim: Oh, okay.

Rhonda: Because he’s already-

Jim: Right. He’s gone.

Rhonda: So, saw this 1969 Mediterranean Blue Mach 1 with a shaker hood-

Jim: It sounds like-

Rhonda: … 428 Cobra Jet.

Jim: … you might love this car even more than your husband does.

John: (laughing)

Rhonda: [crosstalk 00:06:04] tell the story, so it is a part of our romance story (laughs).

Jim: Man, you even know the right terms.

Rhonda: But I saw the car, and I knew it was his. There’s no mistaking, and I got a little flutter, “Oh, Stoppe’s here. I’m gonna see Stoppe.” So, I walk in this gymnasium, and he’s playing the alumni game for the school he graduated from, so as I walk in… it’s a small gymnasium… he’s doing a layup right toward the door that I’m walking in. So, he does this layup, and then he kinda does this, kind of freezes in sp- in- in and we lock eyes-

Jim: (laughs)

Rhonda: … and he gives me that smile and a wink, I mean, goes down to finish the game. And I’m like, “He saw me. He saw me. He’s going to come talk to me. What am I going to say?” Trying to think of whatever clever thing I could say. So, I go over to my side of the gymnasium. After the game he goes, I guess, showers, whatever. Finally, he comes out, and I’m like, “Oh, he’s gonna come talk to me,” and he puts a girl on his arm, and he walks up the bleachers introducing this girl to all of his alumni.

Jim: Oh my goodness.

Rhonda: And I’m like, and I look down at my cheerleading uniform, my teenage self, and I’m like, “He is never, ever gonna notice me (laughs). I’m too young.” And that was… He didn’t even say good-bye to me. You didn’t even say good-bye to me (laughs).

John: It’s a good thing there’s a wall between us, a wall of glass.

Rhonda: (laughs)

Jim: Yeah, there’s a piece of glass between these two.

Rhonda: And I was sad, but what I love about that story, it reminds me of how I longed for his attention.

Jim: Oh, interesting.

Rhonda: And it- it’s what I call magical moments. There’s… We forget once we’re married how much we longed for that person to look our way.

Jim: Absolutely, but th- then you go into the courtship. You get married, and that’s where we want to go now is, okay-

Rhonda: Mm-hmm.

Jim: … so, how long did the- the glow last?

Rhonda: Well, uh, we got married and then we moved. Uh, I was working full-time, and he was working full-time. He was in construction at the time.

Jim: So, the honeymoon’s over.

Rhonda: So, I’m going to work all day, and it’s th- the rainy season during construction, so he would stay home and play Atari with his brother while it was raining-

Jim: (laughs)

Rhonda: … and I would come home, and they would have peanut butter toast and would be all the counter. And I would just be like, “Ooh,” and I’d clean it up, “Don’t you care what I do all day?” And I felt myself starting to just not enjoy him, because he wasn’t measuring up to my expectations. And so, as that occurred, it scared me. I knew the wife I meant to be, and I think that’s the wife we all long to be, is this amazing woman that, uh, they’re cheerleader, we laugh out loud with them, we have fun with them.

Jim: So, why do we husbands irritate you so much?

Rhonda: Well, I think it’s because our expectations are so like, “If you love me, you would,” or, “you would-”

Jim: Clean up your peanut butter toast (laughs).

Rhonda: Right. And- and we assign wrong motives to their actions, and I think that, to me, is where we have to step back. I want to be in love with my husband till the day one of us dies. I want to be in love with him long past that, and I want him to be in love with me.

Jim: Yeah.

Rhonda: But if I’m not still working at when we’re dating, you know, is that… That 1969 Mach 1 would be rumbling down the road, and I’d hear it. It was in the ’70s, so I got my Farrah Fawcett hair curling iron going on, and my heart would pitter-patter when I heard that car coming, and I wanted to look my best and give him the biggest hug when he walked in the door. But once we’re married, oftentimes, uh, you know, I’m wearing the same yoga pants I’ve worn for five days and-

Jim: (laughs)

Rhonda: … I sprayed some dry shampoo in my hair, and you know what? The kids have been hanging on me all day. I don’t have time to say, hi, to you as you walk in the door.

Jim: Right.

Rhonda: Uh, I think it’s just easy to lose that romance in those simple things. You know, a lot of times… And the reason that I like these stories is it shows real romance.

Jim: Mm-hmm.

Rhonda: You know, romance to me is not just plan the perfect date, take me out to a nice restaurant. Romance is walk in the door, and take this baby, and just let me go take a bubble-bath, and meet me in the bedroom, uh, after you put them all to bed. I don’t care if you give them peanut butter toast for dinner.

Rhonda: (laughing)

Jim: As long as you clean it up.

Rhonda: As long-

Rhonda: (laughing)

Jim: Pet peeve. Well, that’s one of the key things. You’ve been married 36 years. Jean and I have been married 32. How about you and Dena?

John: Uh, going on 35.

Jim: Okay, so-

Rhonda: Actually, we’re 38 now.

Jim: Oh, 38. Okay, so wh- when you see that, I mean, it can pretty dry at times.

Rhonda: Mm.

Jim: And I’m sure there’s, uh, a spouse, a wife or a husband listening right now going, “Yeah, we- we kinda hit the desert island 12 years ago or 15 years ago.” For that parched couple who, you know, they haven’t kept with it. They haven’t romanced each other. They haven’t, uh, done the hard work, which it really is hard work.

Rhonda: Yeah. I think the first thing I would say is, one of the couples listening today, not both of them, and they’re thinking, “Oh, I wish he was listening to this. Oh, I wish she was listening to that.” And my advice is, let it begin with you. Don’t wait until he becomes the man you wanted him to be or-

Jim: Yeah, but here’s the irritating part. It’s the irritating part. How do you overcome the irritating part to say, “Okay, it’s gonna start with me. I’m going to act differently. I’m gonna, uh, act more excited,” or whatever, um?

Rhonda: For me?

Jim: Yes.

Rhonda: Number one, it was finding great mentors. It was finding couples… Steve was… We worked in youth ministry, so we got to see the parents of our youth, and the ones who still held hands when they walked in the door at church, the one who laughed at each other’s jokes, winked at each other across the room, I’m like, “What do you know? I want…” And we just became friends with them. I always-

Jim: And what did they say?

Rhonda: I always say old ladies-

Jim: (laughs)

Rhonda: … old ladies know stuff. You know, Titus 2 calls the older women to teach the younger how to love their husbands, and that word, love, is to be his friend.

Jim: Mm.

Rhonda: It’s how to be his friend. When we get married, our husbands oftentimes are thinking, “This woman’s going to be my friend. She’s going to be my support, my encourager.” And I think we get so busy about the business of life we forget that. So, what these women did, they invited me to a woman’s Bible study, and they said, “Just join us.” It was a book of Philippians’ study, and we went through the book of Philippians, and, uh, the Word of God does transform you,

Jim: Amen.

Rhonda: … the Word of God. If you go into it saying, you know, “Search me, O God, know my heart, try me, know my anxious thoughts. See if there are any wick in me, not my husband, in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.” God, Jesus said the priority of life is to love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, that’s your whole being, and then love your neighbor as yourself. We try to love our neighbor the way God wants us to love without loving God the way He called us to love him, which comes through fellowshipping with him in prayer, washed with the water of the Word, seeking Him on a daily basis. And I can remember when I knew I didn’t love God like that, and I would once in a while meet somebody who did-

Jim: Mm.

Rhonda: … and it would bother me, ’cause I knew that’s what it was supposed to look like. I was trying to be a good Christian and do all the right things. It was more out of duty than out of adoration. Uh, and I remember repenting and asking the Lord, “I can’t love you like that, but you said, ‘You have not because you asked not.’ And so, I’m asking you to give me the love you want me to have for you. I’ll do the work. I’ll fellowship with people that love you like that, and then love you through me,” so that then what spills out of us is His agape love for others, beginning with our spouse.

Jim: You know, I think that’s really good, and I think the difficulty is that discipline of putting yourself kind of in the backseat. And it’s the classic struggle we have being selfish creatures, and the Lord’s telling us over and over again, you know, “This is the problem that you have, and what I’m gonna do through marriage,” and here’s where the culture breaks down with marriage. It’s actually meant for us to become more selfless, and I think I’m saying this for myself, too, ’cause I don’t do it well.

Rhonda: Mm-hmm.

Jim: I try-

Rhonda: Sure.

Jim: … but sometimes I fail. A lot of times I fail, so how- how do we remind ourselves what this is about?

Rhonda: I think it’s just important that we, it’s intentional, and taking our entitlement and setting it aside. I’m not entitled to make that person make me have happiness.

Jim: So it’s not me, me, me, me, me?

Rhonda: Right. My happiness is not gonna lie in how well my spouse treats me. My happiness is not gonna lie in my worth being found in if he still thinks I’m beautiful. When we let each other off the hook and we find our depth of who we are in this adoration of the Creator of heaven and earth, loved us so much He purchased us for his treasure-

Jim: Mm-hmm.

Rhonda: … with the blood of his son, that’s the spiritual answer. The practical answer is just do it. Just wake up every day and think on whatever is good, right, honorable and praiseworthy about your spouse, and then asking your- your, the Lord, “Give me the love for him. Rekindle those things. Remind me of those things.” And that’s the goal of this Real-Life Romance. The last chapter in the book, One More Love Story, it says, “It’s yours,” right, your love story in this book.

Jim: Mm.

Rhonda: And you’re just, not just any love story. It’s your story, the one that your children and your grandchildren may tell long after you’re gone.

Jim: Let’s hope so.

John: Yeah, that’s great advice from Rhonda Stoppe. She’s our guest today on Focus on the Family, and, uh, we’re covering some of the content in her book, Real-Life Romance: Inspiring Stories to Help You Believe in True Love. We’ve got the book and an audio download of this conversation, and more, at focusonthefamily.com/broadcast or call and we’d be happy to help you, 800, the letter A, and the word FAMILY.

Jim: Uh, Rhonda, as Christians, uh, we sometimes think things like romance and true love are kind of in that silly category. Maybe men think of it that way.

Rhonda: Men do (laughs).

Jim: Okay, yeah. Let me speak for men.

Rhonda: Girlfriends out there. (laughing)

Jim: But also, we might think, “Ah, they’re, you know, somewhat worldly.” I don’t know. I mean, I- I tend to like romance and all that. I don’t know if Jean would agree, “Well, uh, it’d be good to see it occasionally.” (laughs)

John: We have her on the phone, right now. (laughing)

Jim:  You better not. And it was nice having John on the broadcast. (Laughing)

Rhonda: (laughing)

Jim: But I want to get to the point. Uh, you know, what’s the significance of the Biblical stories? I mean, I think… And again, I’m being very stereotypical. I get that. But I think we men, we kind of brush through those and we don’t think of it in that context. We want to get to David battling (laughs), you know, as a warrior.

Rhonda: Mm-hmm.

Jim: And that probably starts as teenagers, right. We want, uh, the nitty-gritty guy stuff in there. But, uh, the stories in Scripture about romance, first of all, do they exist, and secondly, where are they and what are they telling us?

Rhonda: You know, the one that comes to mind as you’re asking that question is, just think of Mary and Joseph. They’re a couple of kids, and they were engaged, and they were gonna get married and they were… Uh, the Bible tells us that Joseph deeply loved Mary, and then she comes and says, “Uh, this angel came to me and told me that-”

Jim: Right.

Rhonda: Right, “and I’m gonna carry the Messiah, and I am a virgin, but just so you know.” And isn’t it interesting that God doesn’t send the angel first to Joseph?

John: To Joseph, yeah.

Rhonda: He challenges Joseph to just kinda trust her, and of course, he’s like, “The girl’s a little bit cra- cra.”

Jim: (laughing) Right.

Rhonda: “I’m gonna put her away privately, ’cause I love her.”

Jim: Yeah.

Rhonda: And then, I love that God gives her Elizabeth, that older mentor. She goes away to be with her cousin who’s pregnant with John the Baptist, and immediate when Elizabeth sees her and says, “Yeah, you are pregnant with the Messiah. This baby that’s, uh, within me just lept within my womb.” And then here’s Joseph out there trying to figure it out, and then God comes to him and give him a dream and says, “Take this woman to be your wife.” Uh, w-what I love about all of those Old Testament accounts is God’s character, because a lot of times God doesn’t show up immediately when He challenges us to do something that’s a huge act of faith and He doesn’t surround us with a bunch of people that cheer us on and say, “Oh, yeah, I totally believe God’s calling you to do that.” You’ve got the practical people that are like, “What are you thinking? (laughs) You can’t do that.” And so, Joseph comes… She comes back, and he takes her as his bride. What a beautiful romance story.

Jim: Mm.

Rhonda: And then to think of… Why am I tearing up? He delivered the Messiah. It was just her and him in the inn. No, no room in the inn (laughs).

Jim: The manger.

Rhonda: The manger. He delivered this baby. And- and, you know, there’s something romantic about even when you have a child, and your spouse is in the room with you. I was in labor for 52 hours with my first child.

John: Oh my.

Jim: You just earned a gold star from all the ladies listening.

Rhonda: I know, right, no drugs, no meds.

Jim: Oh my.

Rhonda: Um, because back in the, um, when did I? She was in ’83. I had a hippy doula that was like, “Oh no, it’s better. Don’t take.” And I’m like, “Okay. I want to be a good mom. I’m not going to take any drugs.”

Jim: (laughs)

Rhonda: Uh-huh, but you know, Steve sat by my side, and he encouraged me, and he held my hand and he coached me. That’s real-life romance. That-

Jim: Well, you treated him pretty well (laughs).

Rhonda: Yeah.

Jim: No meds, all that was going on. Jean was like, “Get me the drugs.”

Jim: (laughing)

Rhonda: But there’re so many real-life romance stories that we miss in our own love stories, because it’s just like when we just move forward, but if we step back and encourage, uh, you know, yourself to think about when he showed up for you, when you showed up for him. Uh, Steve shattered his hip in a dirt bike accident 13 years ago. It was rough. He has a metal plate. I say he has buns of steel now.

John: (laughing)

Rhonda: And- and I had to take care of him, and it was three months of him just really not being able to do much at all.

Jim: Right.

Rhonda: And I remember he would just say, “Babe, I’m so sorry, ’cause this injury,” you know, whatever. But I remember telling him, “This gives me an opportunity to just show you how much I love you in a way I never would have been able to show you.”

Jim: Did it test you at all, though?

Rhonda: Oh, yeah, I wept. We both wept.

Jim: I mean, seriously, you sound so angelic, and I want to make sure (laughs).

Rhonda: No, no, we both wept, but, you know, I had been… If- if we’re preparing our hearts before a trial comes-

Jim: Mm-hmm.

Rhonda: … and I had been reading a book, and it was called, uh- uh, the subtitle was Fighting for Joy, and I remember when he was in the hospital and the entire time that we were going through all… He was in traction for nine days.

Jim: Oh, I know.

Rhonda: It was rough.

Jim: That’s like, “Yeah, can I get some water?”

Rhonda: Yeah.

Jim: I mean, I broke my ankle, and Jean had to do that.

Rhonda: Yeah, you know. Yeah.

Jim: So I really, I do know how terrible that is.

Rhonda: And Nehemiah 8:10 just kept coming over my mind, and it’s, “The joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Jim: Mm.

Rhonda: And so when the word… You know, in Psalms 119 it says, “Your word I have hidden in my heart that I might not sin against you.” There is a secret formula to taking our thoughts captive, and it comes from being washed with truth and having it in there, so when those things come, we’re prepared. When did Nehemiah tell them, “The joy of the Lord is your strength”? When they were building a wall with one hand, a trowel in one hand, and a sword in the other fighting off the enemy that was going to, maybe, attack them, also that was challenging their character, lying about them saying that their motives weren’t pure. Wow, uh, I’m a pastor’s wife. If you’re trying to build your house with one hand and you’ve got people coming at you with, you know, questioning your integrity or your motives or whatever, you can either pick up the burden of all of that or you can fight for joy, which is what Nehemiah said, “The success to your battle is the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Jim: Amen. I like that. You know, uh, your older daughter, Meredith, has had some difficulty, too. What’s happened for her and her husband and how have they struggled through and loved each other through difficulty?

Rhonda: Yeah. Meredith and Jake met at The Master’s University and, uh, he was on, jumped up on the table in the cafeteria, uh, imitating, I believe, it was a velociraptor (laughs).

Jim: That’s a great way to court your future bride.

Rhonda: Uh, yeah, and she walks in-

Jim: (laughs)

Rhonda: … and he’s this 6’4″-

Jim: Oh my goodness.

Rhonda: … baseball player and funny guy, and the table collapsed underneath him, and all, everybody’s food went everywhere. And Meredith-

Jim: Oh.

Rhonda: … his eyes met Meredith’s, and she was embarrassed for him.

Jim: Yeah.

Rhonda: And she walked out, and he was embarrassed that she saw him. Anyway, long story, they fall in love.

Jim: It’s the beginning of a love affair (laughs).

Rhonda: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they get married. Well, and he… And she’s like not about dating, you know, just like, and he writes her this poem. And it’s basically something like, “Roses are red, violets are blue. I don’t know, maybe I think I might like you.” And she’s just like, “Oh no. That’s way too much. That’s too serious for me,” and she runs the other way, and he’s confused. And then they end up married and they had, uh, they had a- a child at one point, and then they had, um, ectopic pregnancy, which was really a difficult situation for them, and then Meredith had a number of miscarriages. And at the same time, my daughter, Kayla, had had a miscarriage. Meredith got pregnant again and gave birth to Ivy, Ivy Love, who is a treasure to our family. And when she was born, our whole family converged in the room to celebrate, finally, this birth of a new baby, ’cause we’d only had at that point, one grandchild. And Jake stops us, and he says, “Something’s wrong with Ivy and we don’t know what it is.” And what it is, it’s called Goldenhar syndrome. It’s a… She had facial cranial deformities and, uh, but it wasn’t… They didn’t know anything about it till she was born.

Jim: Right.

Rhonda: And they scooped Ivy away from Meredith, and Meredith was saying, “I want my baby. Where’s my baby?” So that was interesting to watch how Jake just ministered to Meredith, and- and I went over to Ivy, and I was singing to her, and she was… I sang Jesus Loves Me. I have a terrible voice, and I’m like (laughs), “Somebody needs to sing to this child, because she’s going to pick up Grandma’s bad off-tone,” and she quieted. And then in the night, they had, she flunked her hearing test, and they said she couldn’t hear. And my son, Brandon, whose love story is also in the book, Brandon and Jessie, he’s a musician, uh, worship leader in Southern California, Brandon stayed up all night just pleading with the Lord that Ivy wouldn’t be deaf, and the next morning she passed her hearing test, and our family was just celebrating. We were all staying in the apartment on campus at The Master’s University while this, uh, was going on and Jake was ministering to Meredith. That’s real-life romance. They prayed together. They trusted the Lord together, as, uh, Goldenhar is a syndrome, so a lot of things came through. But at one point Meredith said, “This isn’t our struggle. It’s Ivy’s struggle, and God’s called us to prepare her to walk through this trial.”

Jim: Yeah.

Rhonda: And just watching them love each other and trust the Lord through that, that’s real-life romance.

Jim: Yeah. Rhonda, I’m mindful of couples that they may in the middle of a struggle, I mean, right now and- and they don’t have the handles, they don’t have the terrain to get their footing to draw closer together through challenges. How can they find that footing?

Rhonda: They need to seek out a Biblical counselor. They need to go to their pastor. They need to go to a godly mentor. When you’re in the middle of it and especially when you’re… Even when you are prepared for a trial, it’s still… You know, uh, the Bible says, “Don’t be surprised that these various trials come upon you,” but we’re still shocked. We know bad things happen to good people, but when it happens to us, we’re just, we want to say, “Why?” Uh, I remember, I just shattered my wrist. I’m sitting here with a brace on my hand, ’cause we just, uh, rolled a quad and I shattered my wrist, and it was painful. And for two months, I was just laying in bed with this pain, and you know, the Bible says, “Rejoice in the Lord always, and again I say, rejoice.” And as I was laying there, canceling speaking engagements and other things that I really wanted to go do, as I was laying there, I had to really ponder that. What does that mean, “Rejoice in the Lord always”? And it doesn’t mean rejoice in the circumstance. It’s rejoicing in the Lord, so I just had to sit there and go over what I knew to be true about Him and rejoice in who He is and in his character. But find someone that will speak that truth into your life when you’re going through those trials. Find someone.

Jim: Yeah.

Rhonda: We comfort those with the comfort that we ourselves have been comforted. Find someone who’s, has struggled with infertility, who has had a miscarriage, who’s had a special needs child, who’s dealing with that, uh, you know, out of the blue diagnosis and ask them to walk with you, help you keep your eyes on Christ, ’cause the ocean is going to drown you.

Jim: Well, I think that’s the key, and here at Focus, uh, we want to be that friend for you and come along side you. If you’re in that tough spot, call us. Let us talk with you. Let us help you with resources that will help build that bridge that you need. And Rhonda, one resource I really recommend is your great book, Real-Life Romance. It’s such a wonderful tool for husbands and wives to be inspired that they can have that strong, Godly relationship they’ve always wanted.

Rhonda: I probably don’t have time to share this story, but James and Missy’s love stories in this book, in Real-Life Romance, and they had some struggles. He went off to Iraq. He was deployed, and she said, “I decided to be a student of marriage, and I listened to Focus on the Family every day, and I realized my sin in our marriage, that I wanted him to change, but when I finally put that before the Lord,” and she said, “every day, by the time he came home,” she said, “his deployment was the best thing for us, because by the time he came home, I was ready to be the wife I meant to be when we got married.”

Jim: Wow, that’s a powerful story. Um, so, contact us. We’re here for you, and if you share our passion for helping couples who are struggling, I want to invite you to join our team of financial supporters. It’s that simple. God is doing amazing things through our listeners who are committed to supporting the broadcast financially. Some give consistent monthly support, and others, a one-time gift. Every bit means so much to helping others, and giving, uh, makes you feel good, too. One wife and mom wrote to tell us that she started giving to Focus when she and her husband became empty nesters. Uh, she said that supporting Focus financially helped her find new ways to invest time, energy and financial support to the kingdom of God, and I love that. If you can give a gift of any amount to Focus today, I want to send you a copy of Rhonda’s book, Real-Life Romance, as our way of saying, “Thank you.”

John: And you can get connected with a counselor and donate, and also get Rhonda’s book by calling 800-A-FAMILY or stop by focusonthefamily.com/broadcast. On behalf of Jim Daly and the entire team, thanks for listening to Focus on the Family. I’m John Fuller, inviting you back as we once again help you and your family thrive in Christ.

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Mrs. Wendy Speake

With a background in Hollywood as a trained actress, Wendy Speake ministers to women as a bible teacher by applying the power of drama, poetry and comedy to the study of Scripture and real-life application of biblical truths. She has co-authored two books with Amber Lia titled Triggers: Exchanging Parents’ Angry Reactions for Gentle Biblical Responses and their latest, Parenting Scripts: When What You’re Saying Isn’t Working, Say Something New. Wendy is also the co-author (with Kelli Stuart) of Life Creative: Inspiration for Today’s Renaissance Mom.

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The 40-Day Sugar Fast: Where Physical Detox Meets Spiritual Transformation

Welcome to the 40-Day Sugar Fast, a fast that begins with us giving Jesus our sugar and ends with Jesus giving us himself–the only thing that can ever truly satisfy our soul’s deep hunger. On this 40-day journey you’ll learn how to stop fixating on food and other things you use to fill the voids in life and instead fix your eyes on Christ. Anyone who runs to sugar for comfort or a reward, who eats mindlessly or out of boredom, who feels physically and spiritually lethargic, or who struggles with self-control will discover here not only freedom from their cravings but an entirely new appetite for the good things God has for us.

Understanding the Root of Your Child's Misbehavior - Part 2

Often, children act out because they are used to getting attention through bad behavior. Dr. Kevin Leman offers advice to help parents transform their child’s behavior. He discusses the benefits of allowing your kids to learn from real-life consequences and describes the importance of understanding your child’s temperament based on his birth order.

Dr. Kevin Leman

Dr. Kevin Leman

Dr. Kevin Leman is an internationally known family psychologist and an award-winning, New York Times best-selling author. He is also a popular public speaker and media personality who has made countless guest appearances on numerous radio and TV programs. Dr. Leman has written more than 50 books including The Birth Order BookHave a New Kid by Friday and Making Children Mind Without Losing Yours.

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Why Your Kids Misbehave and What to Do about It

Tantrums. Talking back. Throwing toys or food. Meltdowns. Slamming doors. Kids know just how to push your buttons. You’ve tried all sorts of methods, but nothing seems to work. In this book, Dr. Kevin Leman reveals exactly why kids misbehave and how you can turn that behavior around with practical, no-nonsense strategies that really work . . . and are a long-term win for both of you.

Loving Your Spouse Through the Seasons of Marriage - Part 2

Debra Fileta has identified the four seasons of marriage that correspond with our natural seasons – spring (new life and new love), summer (things get hot!), fall (showing our true colors), and winter (long days ahead). In this interview, she will help couples better understand the four seasons of healthy relationships, what to expect during each one, and how to carefully navigate them for a stronger marriage.

Author Debra Fileta in the Focus on the Family broadcast studio

Debra Fileta

Debra Fileta is a licensed professional counselor specializing in relationship and marital issues. She is also a public speaker and the author of multiple books, including Married SexChoosing Marriage: Why It Has to Start With We > Me, Love in Every Season, and Are You Really OK: Getting Real About Who You Are, How You’re Doing, and Why It Matters. Debra’s popular relationship advice blog, TrueLoveDates.com, and her Love + Relationships podcast reach millions of people each year offering guidance on topics including love, sex, and marriage.

Love in Every Season: Understanding the Four Stages of a Healthy Relationship

Every relationship goes through four life-changing seasons: Spring. Summer. Fall. Winter. Each season plays an important role in taking your relationship to the next level. And depending on how you navigate each season, your relationship will either flourish and grow, or it will slowly die. Whether you’re single, dating, engaged or married, join licensed professional counselor and relationship expert, Debra Fileta as she takes you on an eye-opening psychological and spiritual journey through the four seasons that she has observed in every healthy relationship.

Reconciling Faith and Science in a Medical Crisis

Dr. Lee Warren is a neurosurgeon who has faced many heavy challenges in his life – from serving in the Iraq War to removing deadly brain tumors to experiencing the loss of a teenage son. He’ll share about his difficult quest to find answers to some of life’s toughest questions, while holding onto his faith in God and the sure hope of heaven

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Dr. Lee Warren

W. Lee Warren, M.D., is a brain surgeon , inventor, Iraq War veteran, and author of I’ve Seen the End of You: A Neurosurgeon’s Look at Faith, Doubt, and the Things We Think We Know, winner of the Christian Book Award®. His previous book, No Place to Hide, was included on the 2015 U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff’s Recommended Reading List. Dr. Warren has appeared on The 700 Club and the CBS Evening News, and his writings have been featured in Guideposts magazine. His Dr. Lee Warren Podcast, which is heard in more than 60 countries, helps listeners use the power of neuroscience, faith, and common sense to change their lives.

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I've Seen the End of You: A Neurosurgeon's Look at Faith, Doubt, and the Things We Think We Know

This gripping inspirational memoir grapples with the tension between faith and science—and between death and hope—as a seasoned neurosurgeon faces insurmountable odds and grief both in the office and at home.

Praying Scripture Over Your Child’s Life - Part 1

Jodie Berndt loves to pray for her children. She’s been doing that for the past thirty years. Now she helps other parents to talk to God, asking for the salvation of their kids, and for wisdom, self-discipline, purpose, a future and much more. She offers fun and practical encouragement that moms and dads can put to work immediately in their daily lives as they prepare their children for a life in Christ.

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Jodie Berndt

Jodie Berndt is a public speaker, a Bible teacher, and the the author of 10 books. Find out more about Jodie and get some free resources (including printable prayer cards and calendars) at her website, jodieberndt.com.

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Praying the Scriptures Over Your Children

You will discover how using the Bible to shape your desires and requests opens the door to God’s provision—and frees us from things like worry and fear in our parenting! This expanded edition of the bestseller features updated content on issues like technology and identity, and comes with new material designed to invite children into the family prayer circle. Purchase now and receive 10% off your product.

Mothers and Sons: Being a Godly Influence - Part 1

Rhonda Stoppe describes her early motherhood challenges of raising a son, which was intimidating to her. She found help through group of older women mentors. She urges moms to see their role as ministry in shaping sons to be good and godly men. Rhonda outlines several practical suggestions to moms about spiritual training, how to communicate with boys, and supporting the father-son relationship as a wife.

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Rhonda Stoppe

Drawing upon 35 years of experience as a mentor, pastor’s wife, and homeschool mom, Rhonda Stoppe offers encouragement and guidance to women as an author and public speaker. She is popularly known as the “No Regrets Woman,” as she is especially passionate about helping women live life without regrets. Rhonda’s books include Moms Raising Sons to Be MenReal Life Romance, and The Marriage Mentor, which she co-authored with her husband, Steve.

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Moms Raising Sons to Be Men

Mothers of boys have the special calling to shape future men of God. Popular speaker Rhonda Stoppe, mom to two sons, knows this opportunity is a challenge, a joy, and probably the most important work of a woman’s life. Drawing from years of experience, this inspirational resource will revive the faithfulness and fortitude a woman needs to partner with God as they shape the character and heart of a future godly man.

Identifying Triggers in Your Marriage Part 1

They were both convinced they had married the wrong person. From almost the very beginning of their marriage, Amber and Guy Lia experienced various tensions and personality clashes related to house cleaning, backseat driving, workaholism, and intimacy. In this two-day Focus on the Family broadcast, Amber and Guy discuss how they bravely faced the triggers head-on, and committed to working on their own relationships with Jesus. As you listen to the Lia’s story, you’ll feel hope that you, too, can see real marriage transformation!

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Mr. and Mrs. Guy and Amber Lia and Mrs. Jean Daly

Amber Lia is a work-at-home mom, blogger, public speaker, and co-author of two best-selling books. Her husband, Guy, is a former TV, feature film, and VFX development and production executive who has worked on popular TV shows and films. Guy and Amber own Storehouse Media Group, a faith- and family-friendly TV and film production company based in Los Angeles,

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Marriage Triggers: How You and Your Spouse Can Exchange Angry Reactions for Gentle Biblical Responses

A husband-wife team offers practical advice for married couples to end the cycle of reactionary arguments by examining the most common issues that trigger disagreements and apply God’s Word to radically transform relationships.

What to Do When You're Not Okay - Part 1

Life can be pretty stressful. Between work, relationships, and other obligations, the pressure builds, and we lose sight of who we are. Counselor Debra Fileta helps you better understand your emotions, assess your mental, physical, and spiritual health, and intentionally pursue a path to wellbeing. In dealing with anxiety, depression, and panic attacks, Debra understands the importance of self-examination as well as the benefits of seeking professional help. She offers biblically-based advice, tools, and encouragement to help you get on a path toward healing and wholeness.

Author Debra Fileta in the Focus on the Family broadcast studio

Mrs. Debra Fileta

Debra Fileta is a licensed professional counselor specializing in relationship and marital issues. She is also a public speaker and the author of multiple books, including Married SexChoosing Marriage: Why It Has to Start With We > Me, Love in Every Season, and Are You Really OK: Getting Real About Who You Are, How You’re Doing, and Why It Matters. Debra’s popular relationship advice blog, TrueLoveDates.com, and her Love + Relationships podcast reach millions of people each year offering guidance on topics including love, sex, and marriage. Debra resides in Pennsylvania with her husband, John, and their four children.

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Are You Really OK: Getting Real About Who You Are

In Are You Really OK? author and licensed counselor Debra Fileta challenges you to get real with who you are and how you’re doing spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and physically so you can recognize where you need growth and healing.

Navigating a Toxic Culture with Your Daughter - Part 1

As a pediatrician, Dr. Meg Meeker has seen thousands of girls come through her office through the years. They struggle with eating issues, sexual identity, social media…and many other challenges in this toxic culture. Dr. Meeker will encourage parents to invest love and time in their daughters and develop their character to give them the best opportunity for a bright future, all rooted in a spiritual foundation. The discussion also includes healthy feminism vs. toxic feminism

Mrs. Meg Meeker

Dr. Meg Meeker is a pediatrician who is widely recognized as one of the country’s leading authorities on parenting, teens and children’s health. With appearances on numerous nationally syndicated radio and TV programs, her popularity as a an expert on key issues confronting families has created a strong following across America. Her work with countless families over the years served as the inspiration behind her best-selling books which include Strong Fathers, Strong DaughtersStrong Mothers, Strong Sons and The Ten Habits of Happy Mothers

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Raising a Strong Daughter in a Toxic Culture: 11 Steps to Keep Her Happy, Healthy, and Safe

Meg Meeker has been a pediatrician for more than thirty years, is a mother and a grandmother, and has seen it all. She knows what makes for strong, happy, healthy young women–and what puts our daughters at risk. Combining that experience with her famous common sense, she explains the eleven steps that will help your daughter–whether she’s a toddler or a troubled teen–to achieve her full human potential.

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Newest Release - Episode 1: The Truth About Life!

In this episode, we will tackle tough questions like, “When does life begin?” and “What does the Bible
say about Life?” You’ll discover and understand the stages of pre-born life and that babies are more than
just a clump of cells!

Yes, I Promise to Pray for the Pre-born and Their Moms!

Will you pray for the pre-born and moms that are facing unexpected pregnancies? We will send you a 7-day prayer guide that will help guide you along this journey with us!! You can even choose to receive this great resource by text!